You see, you are making the same mistake the West is making, you are
assuming that a reasonable human being is leading Russia. The man is
a sociopath if not a psychopath. He will tell you what you want to
hear and then kill you. He needs those military industries in Ukraine
because the Russians can't seem to develop their own replacement
hardware. Something about Russian engineers are lacking in ability.
Thus without Ukraine's Military Industreies, he cannot rearm his
military and thus become at very minimal a regional superpower nevermind
a world superpower. Ukraine stands in his way to become an evil
emperor who recreates the old Russian, the old Soviet empire..
I agree about purging at least the Ukrainian arms of Russian
Chauvinism -- the bureaucracy, the RO church, the media, the military
of those pro-Russia elements that have worked against the best interests
of Ukraine. Once Ukraine stabilizes they need to pump money into
Ukrainian history projects to build confidence that Ukraine is
equal historically to Russia or any other nation -- this has been
beaten out of Ukrainians. Ukrainian educational system needs to
be restored to pre-Tabachnyk days and then improved even more.
In reference to Russian history, Ukraine fought to the end with the
Mongols and lost, but they kept their integrity. Muscovy submitted
to the Mongol overlords and lived under a brutal power -- from that
as an abused child learned a very bad lesson -- Brutality and hyper
aggression is required to rule. Ukrainians have seen this "civilized"
side of Russia and understand how this is not how any civilized
nation acts. Russians thru indoctrination and having this brutality
ingrained in their every day lives see no problem with this type of
governance. Thus Russia is a lost nation and not one to be copied
till they get away from that mentality. Putin & Putin like leaders
in Russia have to go and it will take 2-3 generations to fix things
after they are gone.
At least Ukraine is much farther ahead escaping that mindset. As
it becomes closer to Europe, that mindset will be nothing more than
just be a bad dream.
Bohdan Wynnyckyj wrote:
>
> I doubt it too. It would be suicide. The question now becomes, in my
> opinion, should the US just go ahead and flood the market with oil and
> watch Putin drown? On the one hand, it would get rid of this Napoleonic
> irritant once in for all, but it would also lead to the fragmentation of
> Russia - which the US may not exactly be interested in.
>
> So we are left with a regional dictator, wounded, and saving face. Our
> job, as Ukrainians, in my opinion, is to go full throttle at this Great
> Russian Chauvanism that glues the bastards. This means going after their
> corrupt church, their white-wash of their own history, and propping up the
> very weak Russian opposition who still believe in respect for
> individualism. We need to keep purging our own institutions, but at the
> same time assault theirs. Big task. But keep in mind, all of a sudden,
> the whole world is interested in learning more about Ukrainian / Russian
> relations. Oncemore, the Russians are now as a result of this Crimean
> folly, commonly seen as liars and people who completely distort reality.
> Ukrainians can take advantage of the situation by making out narative of
> history come out of the shadows and start to be heard and understood like
> no time before. We are in unique times. The opportunity is there,
> finally, to have the truth be told as Shevchenko wanted.
>
> The more and more I studied Russian history, the more I became convinced
> that such a history built on complete lies and fabrication cannot sustain
> itself. Sooner or later, it will collapse under the weight of the lies it
> has perpetuated for hundred and hundreds of years. We just need to keep
> repeating, over and over: Russian civiliazation is essentially mongol, not
> European. They worship and admire authoritarian rule - we do not. The
> people of Ukraine are the natural dicendents of Kyivan-Rus society,
> Russians are not. Rinse and repeat.
>
> Slava Ykpaini and good night
>
> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 8:52 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I doubt if he will invade. We'll know the new deadlines when we are told
> > the timeline for the Kerry-Lavrov meeting they both agreed to. The oil is
> > obviously a factor, as is the Syrian issue. But I still think that Putin's
> > FSB has told him some bad news about what the Ukrainian army and armed
> > populace can do. He has weighed this and decided that the Tymoshenko route
> > is safer. (Or some other tactic). Lukashenko had some interesting stuff to
> > say on Shuster tonight, both about Putin and Yanukovich.
> >
> > Quoting [email protected]:
> >>
> >> A good chunk of Putin's battle hardened troops are in Crimea,
> >> the troops on the eastern border are conscripts. The tank division
> >> north of Chernihiv are a professional unit, though not battle
> >> hardened -- there has been little chance for experiencing a
> >> tank battle. The Caucuses have been anti-guerilla warfare.
> >> Yeltsin lost close to 1000 armoured vehicles in the first war.
> >>
> >> The professional tank division would be used to drive as
> >> fast as it can into Kyiv to kill the government.
> >>
> >> What could also happen is that things start occuring in
> >> Chechnya/Igushetia/Dagestan because those battle-hardened troops
> >> are now in Crimea. Putin is vulnerable.
> >>
> >> The proportion of professional troops as a percentage
> >> is much smaller than Ukraine -- problem is that Russia
> >> has a much greater force.
> >>
> >> I think Putin is more concerned about the price of oil and
> >> how that may destroy his economy.
> >>
> >> The Putin call today to Obama may have been a last minute check
> >> to see if the Yanks would intervene militarily or not. Obama the
> >> great poker player he is not, would have laid all his cards on
> >> the table.
> >>
> >> So my guess is Putin will invade, unless Obama is a better poker
> >> player than I thought. I am not jholding my breath.
> >>
> >>
> >> [email protected] wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> And is now asking Obama to help him out of his mess... hoping to still
> >>> get something.
> >>>
> >>> Remember that a few weeks ago someone (I forget the details
> >>> unfortunately) pointed out that Russia only has some 25,000 totally
> >>> reliable troops to assault Ukraine with. For that to work everything
> >>> had to go like clockwork: Ukraine had to be disorganized and in chaos,
> >>> the "titushky" provocateurs had to deliver, and the world remain
> >>> hapless and silent... Nothing has worked. The "threat" at Ukraine's
> >>> border is hollow. He may have the numbers (up to 100,000) but most of
> >>> these will not "fight the good fight". If he tries anything he'll wind
> >>> up with another Konotop (1659).
> >>>
> >>> The danger now is not to draw defeat from the jaws of victory.
> >>>
> >>> I feel like the kid who said that famous sentence about the Emperor.
> >>> I hope I'm not doing what Merkel opined Putin was....
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
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