It would be more useful if we had a good sociologist/psychologist on the ground to examine WHY these people chose serve Russia rather than Ukraine. ...
On 3/31/14, Pavlo Ivanchenko <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sad?????? No no no no. Pathetic and inexcusable. If many in Ukraine had been educated and learned the true history of Russian/soviet rule over Ukraine i.e. Baturyn 1708, Catherine II destruction of the Zaporizhian Sich and the Hetmanate , deportation of Kalnyshevsky and the institution of serfdom, ban on the Ukrainian language ie Valuyev decree and Ems Ukaz then the history of the CCCP which needs no elaboration then not one would have defected. In light of such historical background there should not have been a single soldier who chose to defect to Russia.
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> Another possibility is that those of the 500 who defected may have been Russian Spetznaz and FSB infiltrators. Who knows what took place in the last 5 years under the Yanuk regime and how many Russians infiltrated the government, military and security services. And who knows if the 130 men who remained loyal aren't infiltrators whose job it will be to sabotage Ukrainian resistance.
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> The 370 who switched allegiance to Russia are traitors PERIOD and should be court-martialed and shot for treason and desertion. Why is this allowed to happen? This will only serve to demoralize the rest of the military and population. They betrayed their oaths and loyalty. Perhaps now many in east and southern Ukraine will stop referring to "western Ukraine nationalist Banderites" as Nazi collaborators who betrayed their own people and nation. Banderites never will renege on their oath and swear allegiance to Russia. With the passing of time Ukraine is looking more and more like a failed state, just as in 1917-1920.
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