does ukraine turn off the water etc ?
On Mar 16, 2014, at 3:47 PM, Mike Reshitnyk <[email protected]> wrote:
> " . . . Illarionov scoffed at the idea that Krym will go back to Ukraine,and said Putin will annex it soon."
>
> Wake up and smell the coffee, people. It is already annexed.
>
>
>
>
> From: Francine Ponomarenko
> Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 6:30 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [politics] Re: Illarionov
>
>
> I just want to add that Illarionov also said that the real reason Zek's govt collapsed was the people of maidan, he said it became clear they were not going to budge no matter.
>
> He also likes the Swiss model.
>
> But he said, what is very reasonable but too late now, that the Uk. Govt should have had military all over Krym guarding facilities, etc. instead they sort of stayed in their barracks. Serhij Leshchenko was there at the table too, and said in his view the current govt of Turchynov and Yatseniuk did nothing because they didn't want after maidan the blood of Ukrainians on their hands.
>
> Illarionov scoffed at the idea that Krym will go back to Ukraine,and said Putin will annex it soon.
>
> He seems to feel not enough was done to protect the area.
>
> As for the Tatars, what he said was not pretty, He said there will be ethnic shifts in Krym, as in Abkhazia,. He also said Krym was going to be a military base, and would not need that many people on it.
>
>
> On Sunday, 16 March 2014, <[email protected]> wrote:
> The population will not disarm. That is certain. Unless the politicos offer Yarosh the job of Commander of the National Guard (:=)))
>
>
> Quoting Francine Ponomarenko <[email protected]>:
>
> He's on hromadske right now.
> He says there is a document which has circulated by those close to Putin,
> trebovanja Putina.
> With regard to Ukraine.
> 1) federalization, but to the point of possible autonomy,goal being these
> regions could secede this way break apart Ukraine piece by piece
> 2) no connection to NATO
> 3) Russian control of the shore line areas,
> 4) putting in place in kyiv a govt he can deal with, marionette govt
> 5)when mustafa asked what people Putin could work with, Timoshenko of course
> 6) disarming the population
> 7) crushing maidan and making it never possible again
> 8) basically a puppet regime
>
> He said the present govt has seen this document, and is fulfilling some of
> its demands, like disarming the population. Illarionov seems to be a
> proponent of the right to carry weapons. He lives in the USA now.
>
> I know some say Illarionov is an agent, I don't know. I am not sure what
> his message would do for Putin.
>
>
>
This archive was generated by hypermail 2b30 : Tue Apr 01 2014 - 00:58:22 EST