Re: [politics] Parubij: We won a big victory today

From: [email protected]
Date: Sun Mar 16 2014 - 16:41:05 EST


One can always be wrong about these things of course. And naturally a
victory does not necessarily win the war. But I think this was a bit
more than just a tactical victory. Putin had only so many "tourists"
and "agents" at his disposal. And he was actually counting on a bit of
mass support among zombified "Russian-speaking" locals. I think he (or
"they" to borrow from Parubij) realized a few days ago that this
support was very soft and softening, and so gambled on putting it all
together in one place. He chose Donetsk (rather than Luhansk or
Kharkiv). But even there all that was achieved was a bit of running
amuck. So it's clear that if he wants to push ahead it'll have to be
actual war. I think he'll see if he can get something diplomatically
first (neutrality + federalization). But if he annexes the Crimea this
won't work too well imho. But if he doesn't, and condescends to leave
the Crimea in a federalized and neutralized Ukraine, this will create
a very big challenge to our politicos. Because I have a feeling there
will be intense Western pressure for Ukraine to agree to this crap.
And Ukraine is financially strapped. This is where a renewal of Maidan
activity would become imperative. But would this renewal happen? We
can only watch and see what tomorrow brings...

Quoting [email protected]:

>
>
> Agreed, the target was 7 oblasts to be seized.
>
> This is just a tactical win, Ukraine still has the war to win.
>
> You know this is just a reprieve.
>
> When the "pro-Russian" forces lost the Crimean parliament
> on February 27th to the Tartars & Ukrainians, the Russians
> invaded on February 28th to compensate for the incompetence
> of the "pro-Russian" people.
>
> Beware the next few days -- truce is just words on a page
> and no Russian ever lives up to a treaty/agreement/memorandum.
>
> [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> Not in the Crimean referendum.
>>
>> He's talking about the defeat, big time, of Putin's plan to
>> destabilize the southeast: details here====
>>
>> http://zik.ua/ua/news/2014/03/16/parubiy_zayavyv_pro_zryv_shyrokomasshtabnoi_operatsii_separatystiv_po_vtorgnennyu_v_ukrainu_470966
>>
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