I agree, Russians have a shifting line -- I remember Putin saying his
dream was a Eurasian Union from Pacific to Atlantic -- he did not say
how that would be achieved. He is getting older so he has to start moving
if he wants to get there before he dies. :O
Fran Ponomarenko wrote:
>
> I think they are speaking Russian to reach the east.
>
> Anyhow, Chalyj just said that Russia is freaked out by the possibility of
> being surrounded by NATO, and they want their spheres of influence. He said
> he doesn't think it is even EU association, because he says it will take 15
> years for Ukraine to even reach the point of being considered a potential
> member of EU. He says it's NATO incursion that worries Russia. He also
> feels Obama is soft because of the Russian nuclear position. He quoted
> Brzezinski and Kissinger, saying that they are suggesting neutrality, and
> Ukraine should go forward and announce this.
>
> I am not a politico, but the Budapest memorandum has not been adhered to.
> Ukraine gave up the nukes, and now Lavrov is making speeches about how
> important krym is to Russia. Next it will be how important Kyiv is to
> Russia. If Ukraine now accepts neutrality, what next?
>
> On Sunday, 16 March 2014, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I stopped watching this when they (Nayem and Chalyj) switched to Russian...
> >
> > Klychko is with the troops in the north. "If they move in we shoot"...
> >
> >
> > Quoting Francine Ponomarenko <[email protected]>:
> >
> > Chalyj is on hromadske now. He is an old timer diplomat, and desperately
> >> is
> >> pushing for Ukraine and the west to tell Russia Ukraine will be neutral.
> >> No
> >> NATO.
> >>
> >> He says this will calm down Russia.
> >>
> >> Then talks can begin with Russia.
> >> He has been pushing this on every talk show in Ukraine. He has tons of
> >> friends in Russia from his old days. I do not known whom he served under.
> >> Anyhow, he's on hromadske now.
> >>
> >> So, between federalization, and neutrality, what sort of Ukraine is there
> >> supposed to be.
> >>
> >> Personally,
> >> I agree with Ohryzko,Ukraine should become a NATO country.
> >> The Russians can't bully people around, and give stress like this.
> >> And I forget the process of how Israel got their nuclear weapons, but I
> >> think, I may be wrong, they had them before it was officially
> >> acknowledged.
> >>
> >
>
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