Re: [politics] Anatolie Hrycenko

From: Serbyn Roman ([email protected])
Date: Sat Mar 15 2014 - 14:41:11 EST


It is still possible to hear the interview on hromads'ke radio. I haven't heard it but intend to do so right away.

As for Hrycenko, he obviously has a personal grudge against the otamanchyky who pushed him away from the Maidan and this must be taken into consideration when he criticizes the otamanchyky.

However I think his claim that Ukraine must show that it was and is willing to defend its legitimates interests, before asking others do this for it, is not only logical but also hardnose politics that all understand.

The role of the Maidan as an expression of the will of the people is not over; and if the Maidan loses its "khlopskyi rozum" approach to politics and lets the politicos get away with their politicking "po kvotakh dovkola koryta", the victories of the the people will be once more lost (traded away) by the otamanchyky.

I am glad that Hrycenko has not give in to the patriotic blackmail, namely that one must not criticize the government during a state of war, especially since what Ukraine is experiencing now is "creeping peaceful invasion", helped by thuggish behavior of tourists from the north and facilitated by weak reaction by the Ukrainian government.

On 3/15/14, Francine Ponomarenko <[email protected]> wrote:
> I just watched a very disquieting interview with Hrycenko, whose oldest son has been captured in Crimea and he has no news.
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> The current govt in kyiv, Turchynov, Yatseniuk, Tenukh, have failed to protect the country, and are conducting themselves as zradnyky, even according to the constitution.
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> He said the current Do Nothing approach is allowing the country to slip into the arms of the aggressor.
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> He said he was not for war, but said you have to show the enemy that you are really ready. Otherwise, the enemy will just take over, as is happening.
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> He said the Uk. Soldiers in Krym have been abandoned by Kyiv. He said this is why his son went there with auto maidan to bring them supplies.
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> He said that people go to recruiting centres and are turned away, because " vy ne�po ti�spytsjalnosti".
> He said this is appalling, when citizens go and want to save their country.
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> He said that Ukraine will be lost if the current govt keeps on this way.
> He uttered the names of Turchynov, and yatseniuk with great disappointment.
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> He�said this was bunk about the army not being ready and being weak. He outlined how military orders are to be executed, and which numerous forces could be called in. He was worried factories were not protected. I think he was referring to military sensitive ones. He is aware of the discrepancy between Russia and Ukraine but he outlined a long list of what is possible and available.
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> He said the current group is demoralizing the country.
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> He said that the job of maidan was not over, but even maidan members in parliament have closed themselves off.
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> He said when all the leaders would come to maidan, Turchynov, yatseniuk, klitschko, poroshenko�and others, everytime someone was abducted,�they made efforts to get them
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> Now people are abducted in krym and the leaders are totally silent.
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> He said they're in the Rada, and maidan is forgotten.
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> He said Turchynov is irresponsible and has failed to protect the country, and the country is sliding away.
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> He said that if there are men without insignias on your territory, they are terrorists, and methods must be found to contain them.
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> He said there is no preparedness. He says he is getting calls non stop due to the current government's conduct.
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> He said he hopes they act soon, tomorrow will be too late.
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