The reversals of russification and sovietization with the new younger
post-soviet generation is an indicator for Putin and Russia to behave the
way they are. It is a neo-soviet imperialist reaction to Ukraine
re-asserting its own identity. Even if de-russification has been slow in
Donbas there are also political and socioeconomic factors to consider in
favor of Ukrainian independence. This area has always been a troublesome
area even under the soviets. Although they may oppose Kyiv on certain
issues I doubt that they would prefer to return to Moscow's yoke where
Putin's heavy hand will be heavier on their shoulders.
PI
On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 12:44 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes this is so. Putin is getting more and more support from the Russians
> everywhere. They are joining in the madness. Like the Germans and Hitler
> I'm afraid.
>
> BTW this explains the relative success of Putinism in Luhansk and Donetsk
> too. It has clearly been instigated by Russians from Russia. But the local
> supportive response is there I'm afraid.
>
> But it will likely not spread much more except for temporary flare ups. We
> have had brief "numbers" points made in the last few days here and there.
> One interesting one is this:
>
> After Ukraine's declaration of independence in 1991, the Russification
> process was stopped and reversed in most areas of the more Sovietized
> Ukraine east of the Zbruch. And the results were apparent in the census of
> 2001. In all regions concerned, the number of Ukrainian speakers ("ridna
> mova") visibly increased, including Odesa, Mykolaiv, Kherson,
> Dnipropetrovsk, Zaporizhja, and Kharkiv.
>
> The only areas of the "Southeast" where the process was not reversed, but
> actually continued (i.e. less and less Ukrainian-speakers) was in the
> Crimea, and in the Donbas provinces (Donetsk, Luhansk). After 2001 there is
> some indication that this began to slow a bit, but the status today differs
> little from that of 2001, while elsewhere the progress is even more
> apparent for the pro-Ukrainian choice.
>
> So this certainly partly explains what is happening in Donetsk and Luhansk.
> More possibilities for aggressive Putinism as the Russian madness
> develops...
>
>
>
>
>
> Quoting Stefan Lemieszewski <[email protected]>:
>
> - headlined on Drudge
>>
>> ========
>> http://news.yahoo.com/russian-flags-flood-crimean-capital-
>> thousands-back-takeover-145104243.html
>> 9Mar2014
>>
>> Russian flags flood Crimean capital as thousands back takeover
>>
>> Simferopol (Ukraine) (AFP) - Russian flags flooded Lenin Square in the
>> centre of Crimea's capital Simferopol Sunday as thousands rallied in
>> support of Moscow's takeover of the peninsula -- vastly overwhelming a
>> smaller pro-Ukraine demonstration nearby.
>>
>> Some 10,000 people joined the pro-Russia rally in Simferopol, chanting
>> "Russia! Russia!" as a navy band played patriotic Russian songs and dancers
>> twirled on stage.
>>
>> [ . . . ]
>> =========================
>>
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