I am thinking more like Andrussovo 1667, Riga 1921, "eternal peace" 1686.
PI
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 5:01 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
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> It is not like such a thing is not unheard of, aka:
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> Treaty of Versailles 1919
> Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact 1939
> Yalta Conference 1945
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> Each time each treaty had serious ramifications for Ukraine and
> Ukraine was never at the table or had a choice in the matter.
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> Also consider, by seceding Crimea to Russia means Ukraine loses
> access to all the potential gas fields to the west of Crimea and
> any gas found in the Sea of Azov. That energy alone could make
> Ukraine energy independent without resorting to fracking on the
> mainland.
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> The only thing that may make something like that barely-palatable
> is immediate entry as a full member into NATO and the EU. Russia
> would never allow that as they want to continue to interfere in
> the internal affairs of Ukraine and continuing wedging of territory.
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> [email protected] wrote:
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> > http://blogs.pravda.com.ua/authors/datsuk/53184dbc5854e/
> >
> > Is Datsyuk just an irrelevant hothead or spot on?
> > He claims that Russia and the West have concluded a behind the scenes
> > deal: Russia gets the Crimea and the rest of Ukraine can join Europe...
> > Everything else is smoke and mirrors.
> >
> > Like all conspiracy theories this one has some plausibilities. But
> > there are also a number of internal inconsistencies in this scenario.
> >
> > My view at the moment is that Datsyuk is full of you know what. But I
> > don't know what exactly motivates his frustration.
> >
> > In any case, the Tatars are not happy, and the Crimean putschists are
> > moving very fast along with Russia. Today they have accelerated their
> > "referendum" to 16 March and even gone way beyond it, already
> > considering the Crimea as a part of Russia never mind the referendum,
> > and Ukraine as an occupier. Putin and co. are playing right along.
> > They might even annex before the referendum. This in itself suggests
> > there is no "secret deal", yet....
> >
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