And here are some sober thoughts (I think) from maidan.org. Ukraine's
limited possibilities for effective action in Crimea in the last month
(Hrycenko is not mentioned but he fits in the crowd...):
http://forum.maidanua.org/T-%D0%9D%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%88%D1%82%D1%96-%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B7%D1%83%D0%BC%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%81-%D1%81%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B4-%D1%85%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%83-%D0%B4%D1%83%D1%80%D0%BD%D1%96%D0%B2-%D1%82%D0%B0-%D0%BF%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%96%D0%B2
Quoting [email protected]:
>
> The American government takes 3 months to transition from one
> administration to another. This is with a rock solid bureaucracy,
> a rock solid military, a stable political system, and a reasonably
> stable economy.
>
> Ukraine has had a bureaucracy, security services, police forces,
> judicial system all compromised by a corrupt government, and a
> destabilizing neighbouring government. There are still a small but
> determined 5th column that still believes in the ideals of the CCCP
> who will undermine an independent Ukraine.
>
> There was no transition time, it was -- oh the naked emperror
> fled to the comfort of the closet of his master. Clear line of
> succession was hampered because the PM & speaker also fled with
> their loot. To do things leagally, the parliament appointed
> a new Speaker, thus constitution, impeachment of the former
> administration, and stabilizing the elected branch of government
> was done first in the most legal manner possible, then appointment
> of a caretaker President & PM was required. Transition time was
> zero.
>
> The Ukrainian military was demoralized and stripped of it's
> ability to fight -- fighters that can't fly due to lack of fuel
> and spare parts. A ground force that has older equipment that
> has not been properly maintained. A Navy that was inherited
> from the Soviet Union and that shared a naval base with the Russians
> and once had been fellow soldiers -- too much comfiness between
> the two forces. A General Staff that was appointed by the former
> regime that had been trained under Soviet times.
>
> We have a government that is bankrupt, where most of the treasury
> was stolen and moved offshore.
>
> We still have elements of the old government still working to regain
> power to top things off.
>
> To add complete insult to injury, the destabilizing neighbour decides
> to invade and seize a piece of prime real estate and to insult
> further they want to seize large portions of the mainland that
> contain many strategic military industries Russia needs to rebuild
> it's military and seems to lack the ability to build from scratch.
>
> Yes it is very easy to be an armchair quarterback.
>
> Under peace time and a stable economy this transition was difficult
> enough -- they were thrown into the deep end of the pool with a
> concrete block tied to their chest and told sink or swim.
>
> In some ways, the real leaders will emerge and in some ways
> Yatseniuk has shown some potential. He has done well on the
> international stage and that is extremely important now.
>
> Whether it is enough, only history will tell.
>
> It is the Ukrainian way to criticize the hell out of the leaders
> if they are doing good or bad.
>
> At times I sense there are some really smart people behind the scenes.
> I hope they are getting thru. And Hopefully a few geniuses there
> too because Ukraine needs them. LoL
>
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