Re: [politics] Re: Betrayal

From: [email protected]
Date: Sat Mar 22 2014 - 17:23:13 EST


The borders are huge -- 1500 miles of many roads, dirt roads, all
flat land, no fences, no ditches, no natural barriers such as
rivers. Easier said than done.

The Yanks have a tough time with the border with mexico and
that has many natural barriers too.

One could dilute ones army to patrol the border OR one could
keep one's army in fast mobile units designed to address any
armoured invasion of Ukraine.

Polands border works because it is a huge barbed wire border
with a wide swath of land cleared and regularly patrolled. Motion
sensors help detect intrusions in unauthorized crossing points.

This is something that can be rectified in 1-2 weeks. This is
something that needs to be thoroughly planned, layed out and
that will take months at very minimum.

Then remember the shore of Ukraine against the Sea of Azov is
a wide open entry point from the sea.

Then there is Belarus.

and Transdniester too.

It is a matter of allocation of sparse resources.

Fran Ponomarenko wrote:
>
>
> Well, the borders should be protected, armed forces should be there so that
> titushky do nt come in, military hardware should be protected, why have the
> Russians been allowed to take hardware, if the policy was stand and do
> nothing, then the hardware had to be moved
> Mamchur is in prison now, it seems
>
> I think Putin has several possible plans to tear Ukraine into pieces
> physically or metaphorically. Look at him, he's in a rage which he can
> hardly control, like an animal.
>
> He is instigating here separatist meetings, he wants turmoil in the
> country. He is doing everything for this to happen.
>
> Separatists are not being arrested enough.
>
> I read that inter 1 is now back in the hands of the Lovochkin guys
>
> Now the call today was for the ZEK to come back
> That's a new line
> What does it mean
>
> I do not trust Turchynov or yulka at all
> I heard her on Shuster live yesterday
> Full of sound and fury signifying let Putin have it
> There she was talking about bratskyj narod etc
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 22 March 2014, <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Tomorrow's Maidan could be a crucial test for everything... Let's hope. I
> > hope Parubij can revive the fervour. He has a solid foot in both camps
> > (people and politicos). I still don't trust Hrycenko. He did F*** all for
> > the Ukrainian army in 2005-2007 (to say the least). And in times of trouble
> > like now ,it's soooo easy to come up with critiques.
> > But there is no doubt that the politicos have to explain themselves. It's
> > now or never. Or else the Putin plan gets under way....
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting Francine Ponomarenko <[email protected]>:
> >
> > All we hear is how the Russians are taking this and that, and it is
> >> evident
> >> to me that Turchynov and yulka who gives her ok for everything are
> >> betraying Ukraine.
> >>
> >> They have behaved like traitors.
> >>
> >> Hrycenko made a second appeal to that Yulka today.
> >>
> >> He is not perfect, but it is my view that nothing concentrates the mind so
> >> much as when your kid is in captivity or desperately ill. And there is no
> >> sign of his son.
> >>
> >> He has said eminently reasonable things, with regard as to how to go ahead
> >> militarily.
> >>
> >> The military is getting discouraged. And rightfully so.
> >>
> >> Putin will just keep marching in,while the hand wringing goes on.
> >>
> >> yulka talks loud and big, and no action, but the inaction works for Putin.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Saturday, 22 March 2014, Anubis <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> http://news.liga.net/news/politics/1091815-mama_my_ne_
> >>> sdaemsya_spetsnaz_rf_shturmuet_korabl_slavutich.htm
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
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> Well, the borders should be protected, armed forces should be there so that=
> titushky do nt come in, military hardware should be protected, why have th=
> e Russians been allowed to take hardware, if the policy was stand and do no=
> thing, then the hardware had to be moved=A0<div>
> Mamchur is in prison now, it seems<br><div><br></div><div>I think Putin has=
> several possible plans to tear Ukraine into pieces physically or metaphori=
> cally. Look at him, he&#39;s in a rage which he can hardly=A0control, like =
> an animal.</div>
> <div><br></div><div>He is instigating here separatist meetings, he wants tu=
> rmoil in the country. He is doing everything for this to happen.=A0</div><d=
> iv><br></div><div>Separatists are not being arrested enough.</div><div><br>
> </div><div>I read that inter 1 is now back in the hands of the Lovochkin gu=
> ys</div><div><br></div><div>Now the call today was for the ZEK to come back=
> </div><div>That&#39;s a new line</div><div>What does it mean</div><div>
> <br></div><div>I do not trust Turchynov or yulka at all</div><div>I heard h=
> er on Shuster live yesterday</div><div>Full of sound and fury signifying le=
> t Putin have it</div><div>There she was talking about bratskyj narod etc</d=
> iv>
> <div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><br>On Saturday, 22 March 2014, &lt=
> ;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wro=
> te:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-=
> left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
> Tomorrow&#39;s Maidan could be a crucial test for everything... Let&#39;s h=
> ope. I hope Parubij can revive the fervour. He has a solid foot in both cam=
> ps (people and politicos). I still don&#39;t trust Hrycenko. He did F*** al=
> l for the Ukrainian army in 2005-2007 (to say the least). And in times of t=
> rouble like now ,it&#39;s soooo easy to come up with critiques.<br>
>
> But there is no doubt that the politicos have to explain themselves. It&#39=
> ;s now or never. Or else the Putin plan gets under way....<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Quoting Francine Ponomarenko &lt;<a>[email protected]</a>&gt;:=
> <br>
> <br>
> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
> x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
> All we hear is how the Russians are taking this and that, and it is evident=
> <br>
> to me that Turchynov and yulka who gives her ok for everything are<br>
> betraying Ukraine.<br>
> <br>
> They have behaved like traitors.<br>
> <br>
> Hrycenko made a second appeal to that Yulka today.<br>
> <br>
> He is not perfect, but it is my view that nothing concentrates the mind so<=
> br>
> much as when your kid is in captivity or desperately ill. And there is no<b=
> r>
> sign of his son.<br>
> <br>
> He has said eminently reasonable things, with regard as to how to go ahead<=
> br>
> militarily.<br>
> <br>
> The military is getting discouraged. And rightfully so.<br>
> <br>
> Putin will just keep marching in,while the hand wringing goes on.<br>
> <br>
> yulka talks loud and big, and no action, but the inaction works for Putin.<=
> br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On Saturday, 22 March 2014, Anubis &lt;<a>[email protected]</a>&gt; w=
> rote:<br>
> <br>
> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
> x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
> <a href=3D"http://news.liga.net/news/politics/1091815-mama_my_ne_" target=
> =3D"_blank">http://news.liga.net/news/></u>politics/1091815-mama_my_ne_</=
> a><br>
> sdaemsya_spetsnaz_rf_<u></u>shturmuet_korabl_slavutich.htm<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> </blockquote>
> <br>
> </blockquote>
> <br>
> <br>
> </blockquote></div></div>
>
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